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a fear of possible economic collapse is a recurring theme. speaker of the house john boehner seem interested in a compromise with democrats that could keep the country from plunging off the so-called fiscal cliff. while florida is still official officially too close to call even without its 29 collect 29 electoral college votes mr. obama won with a hefty 303 electoral votes but a mere 53% of the popular votes begging the question, was it a mandate or a draw. the president promised to reach out to leaders of both parties. speaker boehner appeared to be ready to take him up on his offer with hundreds of billions in tax hikes that could tank the economy, boehner staked out this position on behalf of his caucus. >> for the purposes of bipartisan agreement that begins to solve the problem we're willing to accept new revenue under the right conditions. what matters is where the increase revenue comes from and what type of reform comes with it. >> eliot: a few hours earlier harry reid also called for compromise. >> it's better to dance than to fight. it's better to work together. everyth
coming off a smashing re-election victory or speaker of the house john boehner and his tea party cohort determined to hold the line against higher tax rates on the well-to-right now both sides seem to be digging in. president obama used a campaign-style white house appearance today to declare that while he's willing to compromise with the republicans his bisque position has not changed. >> obama: as i said before, we can't just cut our way to prosperity. if we're serious about reducing the deficit we have to combine spending cuts with revenue that means asking the wealthiest americans to pay a little more in taxes. on tuesday night we found out that the majority of americans agree with my approach. and that includes democrats independents, and a lot of republicans. >> eliot: mr. obama also said that he planned to meet with speaker of the house john boehner and other congressional leaders at the white house next year along with business and labor leaders. the president made it clear that even while talks were under way he wanted the house to move quickly to pass a middle class tax freeze
in the first block, actually there was hope today. you had house speaker john boehner who actually opened a door that many people thought was shut. >> for the purposes of forging a bipartisan agreement that begins to solve the problem, we're willing to accept new revenue under the right conditions. >> jennifer: what? so does speaker boehner mean what he says? here to answer that question and more, is host of "viewpoint," and former new york governor eliot spitzer. welcome inside "the war room." >> i like being here. >> jennifer: i was just railing about the far-right republicans -- >> i heard you from miles away. >> jennifer: but despite the denial, john boehner gave this statement today to suggest that revenue could be a part of a grand bargain. >> yes, but -- there was classic boehner and cantor. it was quintessential republican double talk. we are now at the moment where you have got to put your cards on the table if you are going to get an agreement. it's now november. >> jennifer: but put their card on the table by saying we would consider revenue -- they said it's
issue moving forward and there is a showdown in store. while john boehner has offered up a bit of a compromise he and harry reid have different ideas. >> people making all this money have to contribute a little bit more. >> the congressional budget office are analyzing person provisions of the fiscal cliff. it finds letting these bush tax cuts expire is the least harmful way to improve the economy. but the gop would rather see lower rates and eliminating loopholes. yesterday senator chuck smumer called it a rumpled stillskin fantasy. earlier this week the president gave a very heart-felt speech to his staff and even teared up a bit. >> you guys -- [ inaudible ]. and i'm really proud of that. i'm really proud of all of you. >> more bill is up after the break. stay with us. how are you ever going to solve the problem if you don't look at all of the pieces? >>tv and radio talk show host stephanie miller rounds out current's morning news block. >>you're welcome current tv audience for the visual candy. >>sharp tongue, quick whit and above all, politically direct. >>you
house, but john boehner even said recently this is going to be long talks. is the first round of negotiations after the election but what is important to keep is mind is that john boehner has already back pedalled from where he was in 2011. he wasn't even willing to entertain the revenues he is willing to entertain in 2011. if you remember in 2011 when things looked like they were getting done the meetings were secret. >> jennifer: so in fact i want you to listen to a sound bite from house speaker john boehner this morning. >> the members of our majority understand how important it is to avert the fiscal cliff, and that's why i outlined a responsible path forward paving the way for entitlement reform as well as tax reform with lower rates. >> jennifer: so -- it's very interesting to watch the dance and knowing that boehner has a tea party wing that he has to placate, and knowing he has moved all over the map people have described him, really as being boxed in. >> he is boxed in, because he doesn't have the votes to pass a tax rate increase and the presi
a conversion of interest or views between the president and john boehner. i'm not sure that i see it yet. the president said you have to go to the clinton area, 36% top marginal rate. and you said a few loopholes that's fine but not the real battle we should be undertaking. am i correct? >> now boehner we're back to where we were before the election in some respects. there is a significant core of the republican party that simply will not raise taxes under any sixths. they will not raise rates. they still feel that they are pledged to grover norquist, maybe not to the american people. not to the constitution, but to grover norquist. therefore they're not going to go along--even if boehner wants them to go along. both sides the president and democrats on one side, boehner and the republicans are basically maneuvering for bargaining position for what is going to be a long-term negotiation. >> eliot: they're just shadow boxing, i think that's exactly right. i wonder and i'm trying to assess--i have no knowledge of what goes on inside the republican party but i'm trying to discern if boehner
mandate mandate. that's what i tell to the republicans. john boehner came in today. >> involves making real changes to the financial structure of the entitlement programs and close loopholes and deductions working together to create a fair simpler cleaner tax code we can give our country a stronger healthier economy. a stronger economy means more revenue which is what the president seeks. because the american people expect us to find common ground we're willing to accept some additional revenues via tax reform. >> cenk: now that sounds good, right? additional revenues, it sounds like--no no, no. in other words what he's saying i might close some of the loopholes and then i'll put loopholes within the loopholes but i won't touch tax rates. if i was president obama john i got news for you. we won you lost. you want to do it again? you wanting to through this two years from now? have at it, hoss, go for it. no no, i said we would be getting rid of the bush tax cuts for the rich. i did not stutter. i got elected. i got 320 electoral votes that i'll ram down your throat. no we're going to r
. igor, back to more serious stuff we ought to be talking about. so john boehner is saying hey we can have -- we can find some common ground here and republicans are quick to say yeah, let's follow the boehner thing. when you look at what boehner is saying about how to avoid the fiscal cliff he's not saying we're going to agree with president obama on anything yet right? >> not yet. at least publicly, he's just reheating the old romney proposal which is if you close deductions, that's where you get your revenue. not from letting the high end tax cuts expire. the high-end tax cuts expire. what obama had been campaigning on and what voters want overwhelmingly. so you know, the administration has actually been fairly optimistic about where boehner is and negotiating with boehner and negotiating maybe with some of the rank and file who are more likely to come to an agreement. maybe go into the senate. and doing this very publicly. they're meeting with a lot of groups with labor groups, with business groups and they've
to be revenues as well. second, he's rejecting the john boehner approach which is boehner saying i'll agree to revenues as long as they come as a result of economic growth. in other words, we won't legislate changes in taxes. we'll hope that revenues go up. he's saying no, that won't work for me. you're not going to legislate spending cuts. this is the president talking. not legislate revenue changes as well. >> bill: all right. so there are -- the most immediate decision maybe facing the congress is that as you point out, all of the bush tax cuts expire. which means not only the taxes -- tax cuts for the wealthy expire, the tax cuts for those making under $250,000 a year expire as well. so the president said friday all right, the senate has already passed a bill which would give extended tax cutless for the 98%, those making under $250,000. but let the ones for the wealthier people and defined as over $250,000 expire. and he challenged the house of representatives to pass that. what do you think -- so this is a real -- to
that i thought he was channeling john boehner, and maybe the two of them could have a good cry together when we approach the fiscal cliff, and in the the midst of tears they can solve this problem. >> cenk: now that you brought that up, i want to go off topic for one second. if they passed the grand bargain it's going to be us who is crying unfortunately. i'm curious what your opinion is on the grand bargain. >> well, i don't know. i think something is going to happen. i think the republicans don't have president obama to beat any more. number two, president obama doesn't have an election in front of him. number three i think the republicans more than the president know that they were hurt by not working on the other side. the gridlock in washington is the fault of the republicans. they need to come forth and not be the instructionists. boehner could be the real leader. all we're asking is revenue cuts. we know we have to have cuts. i think there is going to be something done in this lame duck session, and i think john boehner will step up and we'll move forward to the 21st century. >>
boehner. he did say we're open to revenue. but then he immediately said but as long as none of the revenue is coming from our rich friends. he repeated that because the rich people are job creators and you can't -- you can't tax them anymore. don't put too much faith into what john boehner had to say yesterday. it was an opening but not a done deal yet. >> yeah. >> bill: kala is in valdosta, georgia. hi kayla. >> bill: great victory huh? >> caller: i actually fell in above with barack obama in 2004 at the dnc. i was a sophomore in high school. [ laughter ] >> bill: good for you. >> caller: i was actually living in ohio at the time. i said that man's going to be the first black president of the united states. i got my butt laughed off. >> bill: you never fell out of love with him. >> no. i ran georgia southern students for barack obama in 2008. >> bill: wow! yeah. >> caller: i'm -- i'm 24 now and i'm black and i'm a female and he's for education. he's for helping people helping themselves and i think th
, there are going to be more democrats in the house and the senate and even john boehner said that he -- he seemed to indicate that he wanted to wait until after january. do you think that that's going to happen, that there might be an extension of the runway, if you will, to allow for there to be negotiations in the next term? >> well, something has to be done now because the fiscal cliff and the sequestration across-the-board cuts in january. we'll have to see. i spoke with the president today. we've been speaking as a leadership team. we would like to do as much of it as we can now because -- if we can. but we don't really know what speaker boehner's words mean in terms of coming back. i do know that one thing we could do that would be very positive and very immediate would be to pass our farm bill which has $23 billion in deficit reduction in it. but i mean, we would like to do as much as we can. we've got a huge debt. we've got to address what needs to happen on tax reform as well. but we'll have to see. at this poi
to come to some sort of agreement but we have some fundamental obstacles, house speaker john boehner won't accept higher individual tax hikes, and harry reid says asking the wealthy to pay a their fair share is the right thing to do. >> people making all of this money have to contribute a little bit more. >> in case you missed it the president had an emotional moment when he thanked supporters earlier this week. >> you guys have done [ inaudible ] to make sure what i'm doing is approved and i'm really proud of that, and really proud of all of you, and . . . >> you got to love that. the campaign sent out the video as part of a thank you email to supporters. it did, however, also have a donate button. we're back with more show after the break. happy friday, stay with us. >> make some noise for jim breuer! >> go (bleep) in your (bleep)ing hat. >> i knew he needed to get out of the house i knew this would give him so much life. >> (grunting) >> i love getting a rise out of him. >> nice, good job. >> (grunts) >> goodnight, muffy. >> goodnight. >> love you. >> "more than me
-brainer that even a john boehner or mitch mcconnell have to see they cannot survive politically and oppose that. >> eliot: one would hope so. this is one where you want the president to watch the days and watch and say i'm not moving. this is your fault. >> bill: right. then here's the latest wrinkle. i'm sure you saw yesterday some democrats now say that they're buying the mitt romney plan, if you will, of let's not raise tax rates. let's just close loopholes. right. can you get there -- two-fold question eliot. i hate to put you on the spot. one is what's wrong with raising tax rates and two can you get there just by closing loopholes? >> eliot: nothing and no. nothing wrong with raising the rates on the top folks including me including the president including -- >> bill: and me. >> eliot: this is what this campaign was about. the president spoke to it eloquently. bill clinton. every economic study. i wrote my editorial on my show the other night the congressional research service just came out with a study saying ther
, it will not happen. >> then boehner sensing blood in the water says these guys, i guess they're going to let me push them around again said this: >> racing taxes on small business people is the wrong prescription given our economy. when you look at the president's proposal half of the people who would get hit with higher taxes or file as individuals. >> is it on the table to talk about? because the campaign, 60% of the voters have said that they are ready to raise these taxes. they are ready to have the wealthy americans pitch in here. >> raising tax rates is unacceptable. >> bill: so here we are right back at it again encouraged by the weakness the departments immediately show, here comes boehner again saying unacceptal. what is unacceptable is how washington continues to screw over the american class. allen grayson was a former congressman and future congressman. great to have you here. talk to me about the grand bargain, as it's currently structured are you for or against it? >> entirely against it. there is a book called the shock doctrine. this is an article official shock, being introduced to
the president had with house speaker boehner a year ago in the summer that you talked about putting social security and medicare on the table but this is a different tile. he's got an election behind him. he's got a majority now looking for a very different course. all of the polls show the overwhelming majority of americans, includion republicans do not want social security and medicare cut in order to deal with deficits, and so i think the president's got the high ground. i think he's going to see a mobilization of his own base, the entire base of the democratic party mobilize to say don't touch medicaid, don't touch medicare and social security, raise taxes on the rich, and protect the vulnerable and he's going to face a lot of his own people if he goes a different way. >> so, let's talk about taxes for a second. i don't know why we're having a discussion with republicans on attaches either. if we let the tax cuts expire and reinstitute the middle class tax cuts, which would be a guarantee, because every politician agrees, we would get $1 trillion. in the so-called grand bargain preside
heard. i think a lot of conservative policies wonks hope this is the sort of thing that speaker boehner will glom on to, and that obama will say look, it's not my preferred way to get 1 trillion from wealthy americans but it does get me there. it doesn't have a huge impact on the middle class and can avoid a big fight and gives up on the rate increases. i don't think obama is going to give up on the rate increases that easily because they have been so central to his--both of his political campaigns as president even though you know at the end of the day he would end up at the same revenue baseline that he's looking for. it would appear to his base he's supporters like a pretty big cave. >> eliot: i think you're right. after the strength of his commentary and since the election where increasing rates has become the mantra, the line in the sand that people expect him to toe and stay very strict on. anything that backs off from that would require extensive preparation and conversation with his base. i'm not sure he's preparing the base for that right now. added to what we're talking about
was together, then she and john boehner and barack obama can work together. >> jennifer: with all these slings and arrows, she knows it's not about her. >> that's the biggest lesson in politics, you have to be bigger than yourself. >> jennifer: christine, thank you so much, my dear. up next, hunger is everywhere even where you least expect it. after the break we're going to visit an elementary school that is trying to feed the need in an unlikely county. part of our series on hunger. it's a story that you'll only find in the war room on current tv. [ boy 1 ] hey! that's the last crescent. oh, did you want it? yea we'll split it. [ female announcer ] made fresh, so light buttery and flakey. that's half that's not half! guys, i have more! thanks mom [ female announcer ] pillsbury crescents. let the making begin the saying easy as pie? i get it now. just unroll it fill, top, bake, and present. that must have taken you forever! it was really tough. [ female announcer ] pillsbury pie crust. let the making begin [ ♪ theme music ♪ ] >> jennifer: one in five kids in our count
john boehner's attitude toward any tax hike at all. take a listen. >> raising tax rates is unacceptable and frankly it couldn't even pass the house. i'm not sure it could pass the senate. so the votes aren't there. what i did yesterday was lay out a reasonable, responsible way forward to avoid the fiscal cliff and that's through putting increased revenues on the table but through reforming our tax code. >> eliot: for more on the perils of the fiscal cliff and the choices before us, i'm joined by robert reich professor at u.c. berkeley's goldman school of public policy and author of "beyond outrage what has gone wrong with our economy and democracy and how to fix it." professor, thank you for joining us. >> good evening. >> eliot: seems to me the choice is one of jobs versus short-term deficits. which is the right choice and explain to us why this is such a critical juncture. >> well, jobs has to be the choice we make right now. it is a very critical juncture because if we fall for the idea that the defici
bipartisan spirit. [ mumbling like boehner ] >> stephanie: we're going to make job creation more difficult. really? you're just going to continue with the same talking point? the job rates. >> the job creators-- [ mumbling ] >> stephanie: weren't those tax cuts supposed to expire two years ago? >> stephanie: yes, yes. >> that's too quick for them. >> stephanie: well yeah the president obviously gave in the last time. he said at the time this was an one-time thing. and as you recall he did it at the time because he was--it was over, you know, unemployment. you remember, it was right before christmas and they were going to cut off yeah, any way. economists from both parties say that a return to the recession is likely unless they compromise on the legislation. obama said everybody's taxes will go up including those who when make make less, and as an alternative. i don't know why they don't do this. he suggested paying legislation immediately to pre-event tax hike on everybody's income. >> that would make sense. >> stephanie: a measure that has already passed the senate. and he said we should
. did you see all the good work--and i think there was more good work between boehner an himself and the president on a grand bargaining. do you see a lot of that quickly dusted oh off so we'll see a more fast-tracked version of a big solution in a bipartisan opportunity? >> i was one going into the election day that was very confident that the presidents with going topresident wasgoing it win but pessimistic on how the country would operate on the other side of it. i think about how the president won at the end of the day the magnitude of the electoral college victory. i think it has created a mandate on the republican side to work with the president assuming the president gives a bigger argument out there. i may be the irrational ex-using irrational exuberance of tuesday. and you know this, right when you have moments like this, people talk about political capital. you make political capital. if you have it, you don't say it, you use it. if you say it, by the time you're done saying it, you've lost it. you use it, and you use it as quickly as you can. political capital it's lik
there was more gone work between boehner and the president on grand bargaining. do you see that being quickly dusted off so we'll see a more fast-tracked version of a big solution in a buy bipartisan opportunity. >> i was one going into the election day very confident that the president was going to win. but somewhat pessimistic how the country would be run. i think all of those things have almost created a bit of a mandate on the republican side to work with the president assuming the president gives a bigger argument out there. i may be just the irrational irrational exuberance of tuesday i think you can take advantage of these moments. political capital exists. it's a question--you make political capital. by the way if you have it, you use it. if you say it, by the time you're done saying it, you lost it. you use it as quickly as you can. it's like investment money. if you use it and spent it well, it's a multiplier on what you get back. it's not like you spent it and it comes back. does the president take the political capital he has. not say it, but doing something with it in quickly. >>
will take a proactive role here because this is the land of the lane. house speaker john boehner has said it himself. this is the law of the land. this is the next big step. if perry and walker don't do t then the federal will do it for them. >> jennifer: this seems to me these republican governors are all about state rights would want to set up this exchange because it allows them to be these states and republican governors in charge and not the hated federal government. why are they fighting? >> they're putting ideology and partisan politics over the benefits of consumers. the great fallacy here is that obama-care is a government takeover of your healthcare. the government will come into your life and control your care. but these exchanges are private insurers they're giving you option. it is a marketplace and a private marketplace for to you pick out the best options amist amidst these horrible ones. it's really partisan talking points no more, no less. >> jennifer: earlier this year chris christie vetoed the bill but since that time the new jersey legislature passed a similar bill, an
all the leverage in the world. go ahead boehner yap yap yap, yap. six weeks from now i win on almost every issue if i do nothing. they're going to buckle. i won't say that i won't negotiate. those things are on the table. the incomes tax is not on the table. also on the table. estate tax. it's slated to go up to 39%. it's at 35%. then you have carried interest and corporation taxes. why in the world are we talking about cutting corporate taxes. i'll go in the option opposite direction. i'll take away loopholes. we're not going to give you what you want. i won you lost. how about spending cuts to tax increases. president obama keeps saying i want to do $3 of spending cut for every $1 in tax increases. that was before the election. if i'm president obama i say here is the new formula. now we're going to do $1 in spending cuts for every $3 in tax increases. you know why? i won. you lost. if you like we can do it again in 2014. would i settle for 2-for-20? i would settle for that. but i wouldn't go 3-to-1 against me. who would do that numbers that, unless you want to move. 3-to-1 against
? there are several hundred republicans and then after that awkward moment passed, they voted for boehner. he won overwhelmingly and got a standing ovation. louis, get in there. get in the middle of the ring you dumb ass. that's tyt elbow of the day on louis gohmert for not requesting that a guy who is not in congress might not be the best choice for speaker of the house. what an unbelievable doofus. that's the show for tonight. we'll see you tomorrow.
'm encouraged that speaker boehner is making some conciliatory comments. >> stephanie: here is john boehner yesterday. >> there is a mandate in yesterday's results, it's a mandate for us to find a way to work together on the solutions to any challenges that we all face as a nation. >> stephanie: now? now you are going to try to work -- this just make you shake your head having been in the trenches there for the last few years. >> it does. one thing that will change the dynamic is for all of those in the gop leadership who's soul reason for being seem to be denying the president to second term, stop him from accomplishing anything if they could. obviously that motivation is gone. so hopefully that will make them a little more willing to come to the table. i was a little bit struck by something when the speaker talked about this being the president's moment -- the president's time. it seemed to me that this is a shared responsibility. he should be saying, rather it's our time to come together and make this happen rather than we're going to wait for you, mr. president.
boehner wants a temporary deal that extends all the bush tax cuts and buys more time. democrats don't want to extend attach cuts at all even temporarily. we know going over the cliff would throw us into a recession but experts say if it's reversed within a couple weeks it wouldn't be catastrophic. if the two sides cut a deal referred to as the grand bargain, it's preferable in theory, but with democrats and republicans so far apart, it is unclear what we might have to sacrifice in order to get that bargain. third, the two sides could negotiate around the issue of taxes. this is a little more complicated, unclear how it might work. there would be some sort of trade-off and it seems unlikely. the fourth possible scenario, create a patch to get us through the start of the year, which is a short term extension of the status quo something republicans would like, because it extends the bush tax cuts. president obama did that once in 2010 and is not willing to do it again. finally, we could procrastinate with a little down payment sending the message we will get to it. it would be a small package
the january 1 date and kick the can down the road to use speaker boehner's phrases and send financial markets, the absolute confusion that yet again is dysfunctional. my preference would be we come back in january. we've got the advantage where we can put on the table tax cuts for the middle class. >> eliot: congressman we have to go. we'll get you back to
to make john boehner's life easier. you know, if ever--you know, you keep seeing this clip of george bush talking about all the political capital he has gained, right? this is the second electoral landslides. >> caller: the first thing that george bush did with that political capital was to privatize social security. that was the beginning of the end. that's when his second term got broken along before all the bad stuff happened. >> stephanie: you talk about this a lot, too, what happens on the sunday shows. >> caller: i took this week off by the way. >> stephanie: i don't know if you saw this, but this is what drives you and i crazy not just about the democratic party but mainstream media. this is the question that was asked of schumer. >> would you like to see the president bring him in for the negotiations over the fiscal cliff. >> caller: shoot me now. >> stephanie: really? >> caller: why? >> stephanie: really the guy that just lost by a landslide. >> caller: first of all, if you were hiring the guy why would you hire the guy? why would you bring aboard the guy whose economic plan was
is listening to their suggestions. up to this point house speaker john boehner is saying he will not accept any increases on tax rates. but some top republicans are quietly coming around. it is obvious after the election that republicans do not hold the mandate on taxes. while the g.o.p. still might not agree to a tax rate on those making more than $250,000 a year, if democrats demand a millionaire tax increase, it will be hard for republicans to say no. climate change actvilles are not feeling too optimistic after the president's news conference yesterday. advocates had been hoping the president would push for a carbon tax as a way to help raise revenue during talks on the fiscal cliff. while the president did say he is a official believe err -- firm believer in climate change and will take up the issue in the future. for now it will take a backseat to the economy. this is also an issue both parties avoided during the presidential campaign and even during energy talks, there was no mention of climate change
and john boehner and barack obama can work together. >> jennifer: with all these slings and arrows, she knows it's not about her. >> that's the biggest lesson in politics, you have to be bigger than yourself. >> jennifer: christine, thank you so much, my dear. up next, hunger is everywhere even where you least expect it. after the break we're going to visit an elementary school that is trying to feed the need in an unlikely county. part of our series on hunger. it's a story that you'll when we think of hunger we often picture people in the third world. >> many americans don't realize that the problem exists right here in our own country. >> it's an issue that ultimately effects each and every one of us. >> thats why current is stepping up. >>... feeding the needy. >>... feeding the needy. >>... feeding the needy. >>... feeding the needy. >> for an entire week we'll explore hunger, malnutrition even obesity. >> ... and offer solutions. >> so join us here at current tv where together, we'll feed the needy. >> brought to you by the all new doge dart. >> doge: new rules. [ ♪ theme music
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